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    El 24/05/11 01:24, carlos suarez escribió:
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          size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal;">Siempre es
            agradable escuchar a alguien que se emociona con el
            conocimiento, <span> </span>yo aunque leí varios libros del
            señor Levi-Strauss
            no recuerdo mucho, me parecieron libros muy cabeza cuadrada
            para entender
            culturas extremadamente complejas, abiertas y en permanente
            evolución (a
            diferencia de las estructuras culturales ya fosilizadas de
            la Europa del sr Strauss como
            por ejemplo las que caracterizan a la sifilítica iglesia
            católica) . . . Del
            estructuralismo si recuerdo que proponía la reconstrucción
            de culturas </span><font size="2"><span style="font-weight:
              normal;">masacradas por otras militarmente más poderosas </span></font><span
            style="font-weight: normal;">tomando piezas de otros
            rompecabezas para rellenar los espacios faltantes. . . . Por
            ejemplo,
            fray Diego de Landa quemó casi todos los manuscritos de los
            Mayas en México, en
            teoría se podría recuperar parte de ese conocimiento
            utilizando el método
            estructuralista, es decir reconstruir la etnobotánica de
            Yucatán estudiando a
            los pueblos sobrevivientes. . . supongo que eso se conecta
            con lo que dices:</span></font></h6>
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          size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal;">“pero
            sí su estudio y el modo en que permiten analizar las causas
            e interconexiones
            que subyacen a los fenómenos dados”</span></font></h6>
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          size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal;">El
            problema es que el señor Pedro Antonio Honrubia Hurtado
            miente probablemente
            por ignorancia al decir que: “para muchas pequeñas
            sociedades tribales donde el
            global de la población se mueve al son que marca una misma y
            uniforme
            estructura cultural”. . . . Mi experiencia es que la
            estructura cultural de las
            pequeñas sociedades tribales es todo menos “uniforme”. . . y
            no se puede
            comparar ni de lejos con los otros regímenes que nombra el
            señor Pedro Honrubia.
            . . . . por lo que he compartido con estos pueblos y leído
            estas son sociedades
            abiertas, en activa y continua evolución, en la que
            prácticamente no existe el
            dogmatismo, poco jerarquizadas y comunales. . . pero decir
            que son perfectas es
            un romanticismo tonto, por supuesto que son perfectibles. .
            . .<span>  </span></span></font></h6>
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          size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal;">Otro
            rollo que suelta justo después don Pedro es: “Sin embargo,
            por ello mismo, tal
            frase no sirve para determinar una crítica específica al
            sistema
            consumista-capitalista actual”. . . . como si las pequeñas
            sociedades tribales
            no fueran actuales, ese dogmatismo, ese sentido de
            superioridad de los que
            forman parte de una cultura supuestamente superior y
            evolucionada es lo que me resulta
            intolerable. . . . es decir, occidente y sus pensadores
            dictan la verdad, el
            resto, las pequeñas sociedades tribales en su primitivismo
            se mueve al son que
            marca una estructura cultural plagada de errores y
            supersticiones. . . . Este es el típico
            discurso de las oligarquías opresoras que controlan el
            mundo, es decir, en el
            fondo el señor Pedro Antonio habla el mismo lenguaje y sirve
            a los intereses
            conceptuales de sistema que tanto crítica.</span></font></h6>
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          size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal;"> El
            caso que cuentas lo leí en Tristes Trópicos un libro de
            Levi-Strauss y lo
            explicas con bastante precisión. . . este pueblo construía
            en forma circular
            sus casa comunales (a propósito, ¿sabes lo que es una casa
            comunal, no?). . . bueno,
            como cuentas los sacerdotes los forzaron a construir en base
            al cuadrado, como
            su estructura cultural se basaba en los puntos de referencia
            astronómicos de la
            casa comunal circular perdieron sus puntos de referencia y
            fácilmente se
            dejaron alienar por la ideología de los sacerdotes,
            perdiéndose en este proceso
            un enorme cúmulo de conocimientos ancestrales muy valiosos.
            . . no sólo
            “supersticiones inútiles”. . . . . TODOS los pueblos del
            mundo poseen su
            parcela de verdad, no sólo la cultura hegemónica es dueña de
            la verdad por muy
            irrefutablemente verdadera y científica que parezca las
            teorías de sus
            pensadores, siempre será una percepción incompleta de la
            realidad. </span></font></h6>
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          size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal;"> Haber,
            la falsa preocupación por lo ecológico de los Rockefeller y
            demás capitostes no
            significa que el modelo productivo capitalista no esté
            llevando al planeta a su
            exterminio. . . . Por otra parte sugerir que los Rockefeller
            son ecologistas es
            tan descabellado como intentar probar que China, Corea y
            Cuba son algo distinto
            de régimenes capitalistas o tan absurdo como llamar al PSOE
            partido de izquierdas.
            . . . </span></font></h6>
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      <h6><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family:
            arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> Evidentemente
            China, Corea y Cuba son regímenes capitalistas, pero quizás
            si se puede reflexionar
            que en algún momento esos pueblos intentaron librarse de
            jerarquías políticas y
            la obsesión primitiva por la apropiación material
            individualista. . . pero algo fallo en el camino de vivir
            en comuna. ¿Será que los pensadores no aportaron las
            metodologías efectivas
            para llegar a esa sociedad comunal o es inherente al alma
            humana retroceder
            siempre al servilismo y a la codicia? </span></font><span
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      <div class="gmail_quote">El 23 de mayo de 2011 21:41, Durán
        Vázquez Durán Vázquez <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nomenekpos@gmail.com">nomenekpos@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
        escribió:<br>
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          padding-left: 1ex;">
          Y si de lo que hablamos es de fobias personales, entonces a mí
          lo que me cabrea de este artículo son esas referencias a la
          crisis ecológica del tipo: "[...] <i>el
            modelo productivo esté llevando al Planeta a su exterminio</i>".<br>
          <br>
          Fábula de la falsa preocupación por lo ecológico que, por
          cierto, tiene a los hermanos Huxley entre sus teóricos
          seminales, agarraditos de la mano con los Rockefeller y demás
          capitostes.<br>
          <br>
          Por cierto, ¿me lo parece a mí o alguien a intervenido en los
          comentarios pretendiendo dar a entender que China, Corea y
          Cuba son algo distinto de un régimen capitalista?<br>
          Eso sería tan absurdo como llamar al PSOE partido de
          izquierdas.<br>
          <br>
          _________<br>
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          <br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">El 23 de mayo de 2011 21:24, Durán
            Vázquez Durán Vázquez <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:nomenekpos@gmail.com" target="_blank">nomenekpos@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
            escribió:
            <div>
              <div class="h5"><br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px
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                  <p><span style="font-style: normal;">Pues a mí lo
                      estructural me
                      encanta, me pone. Bueno, no las estructuras en sí
                      mismas (que no son
                      más que conceptos abstractos sin existencia
                      objetiva), pero sí su
                      estudio y el modo en que permiten analizar las
                      causas e
                      interconexiones que subyacen a los fenómenos dados
                      que se muestran
                      en la superficie como una variedad de otros
                      fenómenos sin relación
                      aparente.</span></p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Del temario de
                    filosofía de COU, todo
                    lo que se refería a Estructuralismo, Fonología de la
                    Escuela de
                    Praga, las tres amantes de Lévi-Strauss y etc., me
                    pareció un gran
                    descubrimiento para mí. Esa parte del temario me
                    gustaba incluso más
                    que las dedicadas a la física moderna (el problema
                    de la luz, teoría
                    de la relatividad,...) y la dialéctica materialista
                    (Hegel, Marx,
                    etc.).</p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Si hubiese habido algún
                    examen en que
                    apareciesen preguntas sobre esos tres temas, quizá
                    no habría
                    suspendido la asignatura en todos los trimestres.</p>
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                  </p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Evidentemente, a los
                    individuos que
                    forman una estructura (no que “forman parte de
                    ella”, sino, más
                    exactamente, que “la forman e informan”) ésta no se
                    les aparece
                    inmediatamente reconocible. Como escribe Pierre
                    Schaeffer al hablar
                    sobre la relación entre figura y fondo: “<i>Cuanto
                      más sólida
                      sea la forma del conjunto más estables nos
                      parecerán sus elementos,
                      sólidamente individualizados, y paradójicamente,
                      menos
                      condicionados nos parecerán por esta forma</i>”<span
                      style="font-style: normal;">.
                      Bien podrían extrapolarse estas palabras al caso
                      de las sociedades
                      gregarias, particularmente las humanas, opino yo.</span></p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br>
                  </p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal;">Desde
                    luego, el
                    mirlo es lo que es independientemente del
                    ornitólogo. Pero yo no soy
                    (y tú que me lees tampoco eres) un mirlo. Yo soy (y
                    tú eres) un ser
                    humano lo mismo que el ornitólogo. Y los seres
                    humanos tienen en su
                    esencia la capacidad de saber, lo cual quiere decir
                    que el saber es
                    una necesidad humana (y no una opción ni mucho menos
                    un capricho,
                    como algunos y algunas piensan o quieren hacernos
                    pensar).</p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal;">Este
                    saber o
                    conocimiento se ha dado, tradicionalmente y a
                    grandes rasgos, de
                    forma sucesiva en dos modos: a través del mito y a
                    través del
                    logos. Por ejemplo, a través del mito se llega a
                    explicar y conocer
                    el ciclo de las estaciones como resultado de una
                    serie de vicisitudes
                    que suceden a ciertas deidades (o cualquier otro
                    tipo de relato
                    poético), mientras que a través del logos las
                    estaciones han
                    llegado a explicarse como resultado de la
                    inclinación del eje
                    terrestre.</p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br>
                  </p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span
                      style="font-style: normal;">Del
                      mismo modo que no se debe pasar por alto este
                      hecho INCUESTIONABLE
                      acerca de la inclinación del eje que explica la
                      sucesión de las
                      estaciones, tampoco se debe ignorar aquel otro
                      hecho incuestionable
                      acerca de la evolución de las especies, los genes,
                      las mutaciones,
                      etc. Y este hecho de la evolución es el que nos
                      informa acerca de la
                      relación, primigenia y oculta, que existe entre
                      las distintas
                      especies de seres vivos. Al investigar esta
                      ESTRUCTURA que a priori
                      estaba oculta, es cuando, por medio del saber
                      racional y crítico, se
                      van elaborando las taxonomías (que son estructuras
                      gnoseológicas
                      convencionales) que nos permiten adquirir una
                      imagen global de lo
                      oculto. Esta herramienta taxonómica nos ayuda a
                      adquirir
                      conocimiento integrando los diversos datos. Y lo
                      que el mirlo opine
                      sobre todo esto importa poco a efectos de
                      considerar la veracidad de
                      los datos. Así que el mirlo en su casa, que para
                      mí como para el
                      ornitólogo y para todo dios, es por convención </span><i>Turdus
                      merula</i><span style="font-style: normal;">, del
                      género </span><i>Turdus</i><span
                      style="font-style: normal;">,
                      familia muscicápidos, orden paseriformes, clase de
                      las aves, filo
                      cordados del reino animal.</span></p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal;">Lo
                    otro, el querer
                    ver al pájaro en sí, es cosa propia de
                    fenomenólog@s, gente a la
                    que respeto mucho pero con la que comulgo poco. El
                    mirlo en sí no es
                    un fenómeno... o no es solamente un fenómeno. Puede
                    ser también un
                    fin, un medio, un motivo, un objeto, un sujeto, una
                    fuente de sonido,
                    una imagen y hasta puede ser un mirlo. En
                    definitiva, el mirlo en sí
                    no existe, es pura convención... como todo lo demás
                    en la vida
                    humana.</p>
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                  </p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal;">Esto
                    es hasta donde
                    a mí me alcanza sobre estructuras. No sé si estoy
                    hablando de lo
                    mismo que ustedes. De todos modos, ya que parece que
                    de anécdotas va
                    la cosa, voy a referir una muy breve que me contó el
                    propio Carlos
                    acerca de ciertos pueblos indígenas de Sudamérica, y
                    sobre la que
                    seguro él podrá aportar datos más exactos y aclarar
                    allí donde yo
                    meta la pata o me falle la memoria. Y es que estos
                    pueblos (o algunos
                    de ellos) tenían una organización geométrica de sus
                    poblados en
                    forma circular, organización que era un correlato de
                    su cosmovisión
                    cultural particular, relacionada con los ciclos
                    astrales que a su vez
                    rigen la actividad agrícola y etc., etc.</p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span
                      style="font-style: normal;">Eso,
                      desde diversos puntos de vista (sociológico,
                      económico,
                      antropológico, político,...) y al compararlo con
                      otras sociedades,
                      es lo que convencionalmente podríamos llamar una
                      estructura
                      cultural, o también, según en qué aspecto de la
                      discusión
                      pongamos el acento, una estructura social (que
                      además es uniforme
                      porque se repite en constante evolución a través
                      de las sucesivas
                      generaciones). Y me contaba Carlos que esta
                      estructura se quebró al
                      llegar el imperio castellano con su calendario
                      gregoriano, sus ciclos
                      solares, su urbanismo cuadrangular, etc. En
                      definitiva, con un acervo
                      muy diferente del bagaje cultural de los indígenas
                      (considerados
                      como sociedad) que pasan así a depender totalmente
                      (como individuos)
                      del “entrenamiento cultural” o enseñanzas del
                      invasor para
                      sobrevivir en el nuevo paradigma. Aunque Carlos no
                      usó esta palabra,
                      esta situación alienante</span> <span
                      style="font-style: normal;">de
                      crisis que se genera en la conciencia colectiva y
                      que conduce, a cada
                      uno de los individuos independientemente, bien a
                      la rebelión, el
                      ritualismo, el mesianismo, el suicidio, el crimen,
                      la creación
                      estética, etc., tiene un nombre: anomía.</span></p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal;">Y
                    la anomía
                    explica muchos fenómenos que se dan al nivel de la
                    superestructura
                    poniéndolos en relación con la estructura, que es
                    dónde se
                    originan.</p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br>
                  </p>
                  <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">____________<br>
                  </p>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">El 23 de mayo de 2011 16:19,
                    carlos suarez <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:carlossuarez1966@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">carlossuarez1966@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                    escribió:
                    <div>
                      <div><br>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                          style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,
                          204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:
                          1ex;">
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Sr
                            Lana, tiene toda la razón, esto: "UNIFORME
                            ESTRUCTURA CULTURAL" es
                            una payasada producto de la mente dogmática
                            del señor Hurtado que cree poder
                            explicarlo absolutamente TODO desde sus
                            conocimientos económicos.<br>
                            <br>
                            Yo aprendí bastante sobre sonido de una de
                            estas "<i>pequeñas sociedades
                              tribales donde el global de la población
                              se mueve al son que marca una misma y
                              uniforme estructura cultural". . . . </i>y
                            existía el
                            jefe tribal o cacique, pero este concepto
                            estaba muy lejos de lo que se
                            entiende por cacique en Galiza, resulta que
                            este jefe tribal no tenía
                            propiedades y si alguna vez se le ocurría
                            ordenar a alguien limpiar la casa
                            comunal lo mandaban hacer puñetas. . . .
                            Entonces le pregunte, ¿y como hace
                            para que todo este tan limpio aquí ?, el me
                            contesto: pues cojo yo la escoba y
                            me pongo a barrer yo, entonces, el resto me
                            ayuda si le apetece. . . . ser cacique
                            en esas pequeñas sociedades tribales es lo
                            que en España se denomina ser un
                            pringao. . . .  <br>
                          </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                          </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">En cambio, quien
                            me diera ser cacique de la dinastía Castro
                            en Cuba, me follaría a unas mulatas
                            flipantes. . . !!!!!. . . pero claro, me
                            mantendría al margen del nepotismo, porque
                            eso no esta bien. . . <br>
                            <br>
                            En fin. . . . </p>
                          <p><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family:
                              &quot;Arial Narrow&quot;;"><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://carlossuarez1966.wordpress.com/"
                                target="_blank"><span
                                  style="text-decoration: none;">carlossuarez1966.wordpress.com</span></a></span><br>
                            <span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family:
                              &quot;Arial Narrow&quot;;"><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.escoitar.org/"
                                target="_blank"><span
                                  style="text-decoration: none;"><br>
                                </span></a><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.mediateletipos.net/"
                                target="_blank"><span
                                  style="text-decoration: none;"></span></a></span></p>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">El 23 de mayo de 2011
                            12:46, carlos suarez <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:carlossuarez1966@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">carlossuarez1966@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                            escribió:
                            <div>
                              <div><br>
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                  style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
                                  204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
                                  padding-left: 1ex;">
                                  <font size="2"><i>“imponer un
                                      totalitarismo de pensamiento
                                      único”</i><b>. . . . .   jojojo</b></font>.
                                  . . . <br>
                                  <p><span style="font-size: 7.5pt;
                                      font-family: &quot;Arial
                                      Narrow&quot;;"><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://carlossuarez1966.wordpress.com/"
                                        target="_blank"><span
                                          style="text-decoration: none;">carlossuarez1966.wordpress.com</span></a></span><br>
                                    <span style="font-size: 7.5pt;
                                      font-family: &quot;Arial
                                      Narrow&quot;;"><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://www.escoitar.org/"
                                        target="_blank"><span
                                          style="text-decoration: none;"><br>
                                        </span></a><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://www.mediateletipos.net/"
                                        target="_blank"><span
                                          style="text-decoration: none;"></span></a></span></p>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">El 23 de mayo
                                    de 2011 12:25, Durán Vázquez Durán
                                    Vázquez <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:nomenekpos@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">nomenekpos@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                    escribió:
                                    <div>
                                      <div><br>
                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                          style="border-left: 1px solid
                                          rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:
                                          0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
                                          padding-left: 1ex;">
                                          régimen feudal cubano?<br>
                                          <br>
                                          jajaja :-D<br>
                                          <br>
                                          ________________<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">El 23
                                            de mayo de 2011 10:35,
                                            Joaquín Lana <span
                                              dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:joaquinlana@gmail.com"
                                                target="_blank">joaquinlana@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                            escribió:
                                            <div>
                                              <div><br>
                                                <blockquote
                                                  class="gmail_quote"
                                                  style="border-left:
                                                  1px solid rgb(204,
                                                  204, 204); margin: 0pt
                                                  0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
                                                  padding-left: 1ex;">
                                                  <div text="#000000"
                                                    bgcolor="#ffffff">
                                                    El 23/05/11 10:07,
                                                    carlos suarez
                                                    escribió:
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i><font size="2">“En general, es cierto
                                                          que todo
                                                          sistema que
                                                          pretende
                                                          imponer un
                                                          totalitarismo
                                                          de pensamiento
                                                          único sobre el
                                                          global de la
                                                          ciudadanía, y
                                                          el capitalismo
                                                          lo es, no
                                                          tolera el
                                                          pensamiento
                                                          heterodoxo, no
                                                          al menos
                                                          cuando dicho
                                                          pensamiento
                                                          puede de
                                                          alguna manera
                                                          tener la
                                                          capacidad de
                                                          llegar a
                                                          amplias capas
                                                          de la
                                                          sociedad, y
                                                          poner en
                                                          peligro el
                                                          funcionamiento
                                                          mismo del
                                                          sistema. El
                                                          "Pienso, luego
                                                          estorbo", es
                                                          una frase que
                                                          puede ser
                                                          perfectamente
                                                          válida para la
                                                          sociedad
                                                          consumista-capitalista
                                                          actual, pero
                                                          lo es también
                                                          para otros
                                                          muchos tipos
                                                          de sociedades,
                                                          desde las
                                                          tradicionales
                                                          sociedades
                                                          teológicas, a
                                                          las sociedades
                                                          impuestas por
                                                          los fascismos
                                                          del siglo XX,
                                                          e incluso para
                                                          muchas
                                                          pequeñas
                                                          sociedades
                                                          tribales donde
                                                          el global de
                                                          la población
                                                          se mueve al
                                                          son que marca
                                                          una misma y
                                                          uniforme
                                                          estructura
                                                          cultural,
                                                          aunque,
                                                          obviamente,
                                                          las
                                                          diferencias en
                                                          cuanto a fines
                                                          de estas
                                                          últimas
                                                          estructuras
                                                          con las
                                                          anteriores
                                                          sean más que
                                                          evidentes a
                                                          poco que se
                                                          tenga un
                                                          mínimo
                                                          conocimiento
                                                          en
                                                          Antropología
                                                          social y
                                                          cultural.”</font></i></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><br>
                                                          </font></p>
                                                          <font size="2"><span
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span></font>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Bueno este Hurtado si
                                                          poseyera un
                                                          mínimo de
                                                          conocimiento
                                                          en
                                                          Antropología
                                                          social y
                                                          cultural
                                                          sabría que no
                                                          se puede meter
                                                          en un mismo
                                                          saco a las
                                                          pequeñas
                                                          sociedades
                                                          tribales (en
                                                          muchas de las
                                                          cuales no
                                                          existe el
                                                          concepto de
                                                          propiedad
                                                          privada, ni
                                                          pensamiento
                                                          único y mucho
                                                          menos
                                                          consumismo), .
                                                          . . .<span>  </span>También
                                                          se hace el
                                                          tonto pues
                                                          nombra a la
                                                          sociedad
                                                          consumista-capitalista
                                                          actual, a las
                                                          tradicionales
                                                          sociedades
                                                          teológicas, a
                                                          las sociedades
                                                          impuestas por
                                                          los fascismos
                                                          del siglo XX,
                                                          pero no dice
                                                          nada de
                                                          regímenes
                                                          feudales como
                                                          el chino, el
                                                          cubano o el
                                                          coreano. . . .
                                                          . esos
                                                          sistemas
                                                          políticos
                                                          amigos de
                                                          kaosenlared no<i>
                                                          “imponer un
                                                          totalitarismo
                                                          de pensamiento
                                                          único”.</i></font></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><br>
                                                          </font></p>
                                                          <font size="2"><span
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span></font>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
                                                          style="margin-left:
                                                          18pt;
                                                          font-family:
                                                          arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font
                                                          size="2">- - -
                                                          - - <br>
                                                          </font></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
                                                          style="margin-left:
                                                          18pt;
                                                          font-family:
                                                          arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
                                                          <font size="2"><br>
                                                          </font></p>
                                                          <font size="2"><span
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span></font>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Con muchos puntos del resto
                                                          del texto
                                                          estoy bastante
                                                          de acuerdo. .
                                                          . . <span> </span>esto
                                                          por ejemplo:</font></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i><font size="2"><br>
                                                          </font></i></p>
                                                          <i><font
                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span></font></i>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i><font size="2">“Están cabreados porque
                                                          quisieran
                                                          tener todo eso
                                                          con lo que
                                                          siempre han
                                                          soñado:
                                                          dinero, éxito,
                                                          un coche
                                                          lujoso, un
                                                          piso en
                                                          propiedad,
                                                          etc, etc., y
                                                          no pueden
                                                          tenerlo; no
                                                          les dejan
                                                          tenerlo; pese
                                                          a que hay
                                                          otros que sí
                                                          lo tiene, lo
                                                          siguen
                                                          teniendo.”</font></i></p>
                                                          <font size="2"><span
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span></font>
                                                          <h6
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight:
                                                          normal;">Basta
                                                          saber si los
                                                          periodistas de
                                                          kaosenlared o
                                                          rebelión están
                                                          dispuestos a
                                                          sacrificar eso
                                                          que otros
                                                          desean y por
                                                          lo que están
                                                          tan
                                                          “cabreados”, y
                                                          así conformar</span><font
                                                          size="2"> </font><font
                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          style="font-weight:
                                                          normal;">una
                                                          sociedad
                                                          realmente
                                                          comunista,</span></font><span
                                                          style="font-weight:
                                                          normal;"> sin
                                                          jerarquías ni
                                                          privilegios de
                                                          ningún tipo. ¿</span><font
                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          style="font-weight:
                                                          normal;">O</span></font>
                                                          <span
                                                          style="font-weight:
                                                          normal;">en
                                                          realidad les
                                                          encanta y
                                                          fascina que
                                                          los alojen en
                                                          hoteles de
                                                          cinco
                                                          estrellas y
                                                          comer en
                                                          restaurantes
                                                          caros cuando
                                                          traen sus
                                                          conferencias
                                                          anticapitalista
                                                          a ciudades
                                                          como
                                                          Pontevedra o
                                                          Vigo.?. . . .
                                                          Porque claro,
                                                          entre
                                                          auténticos
                                                          antisistemas
                                                          esto no es
                                                          consumismo es
                                                          un derecho
                                                          humano.</span></font></h6>
                                                          <font size="2"><span
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span></font>
                                                          <h6
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight:
                                                          normal;"></span></font></h6>
                                                          <font size="2"><span
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span></font>
                                                          <h6
                                                          style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight:
                                                          normal;">En
                                                          fin. . . . </span></font></h6>
                                                          <p><font
                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          &quot;Arial
                                                          Narrow&quot;;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://carlossuarez1966.wordpress.com/"
                                                          target="_blank"><span
                                                          style="text-decoration:
                                                          none;">carlossuarez1966.wordpress.com</span></a></span></font><br>
                                                          <span
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          7.5pt;
                                                          font-family:
                                                          &quot;Arial
                                                          Narrow&quot;;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.escoitar.org/" target="_blank"><span
                                                          style="text-decoration:
                                                          none;"><br>
                                                          </span></a><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.mediateletipos.net/"
                                                          target="_blank"><span
                                                          style="text-decoration:
                                                          none;"></span></a></span></p>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">El
                                                          23 de mayo de
                                                          2011 02:06,
                                                          Durán Vázquez
                                                          Durán Vázquez
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nomenekpos@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">nomenekpos@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          escribió:<br>
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                                                          <h5> <font
                                                          size="2"><b>Sobre
                                                          el movimiento
                                                          de los
                                                          "Indignados":
                                                          Pienso luego
                                                          estorbo vs
                                                          consumo luego
                                                          existo</b></font>
                                                          </h5>
                                                          <h6><font
                                                          size="2">Reflexión

                                                          sobre las
                                                          causas
                                                          socioeconómicas,
                                                          la causas
                                                          sociológicas y
                                                          la naturaleza
                                                          ideológica del
                                                          movimiento de
                                                          los
                                                          "Indignados".
                                                          ¿Antisistema o
                                                          no
                                                          antisistema?</font></h6>
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target="_blank"> <b>Pedro Antonio Honrubia Hurtado</b></a> | Para Kaos
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                                                          <br>
                                                          <p> <b>Pienso,
                                                          luego estorbo.
                                                          Consumo, luego
                                                          existo</b></p>
                                                          <p> "Pienso,
                                                          luego
                                                          estorbo", se
                                                          podía leer
                                                          ayer en una de
                                                          las pancartas
                                                          que adornaban
                                                          la Plaza del
                                                          Carmen de
                                                          Granada, lugar
                                                          de la capital
                                                          nazarí donde
                                                          durante todos
                                                          estos días se
                                                          viene
                                                          relizando la
                                                          acampada y la
                                                          Asamblea del
                                                          movimiento de
                                                          los
                                                          "indignados"
                                                          en la ciudad.
                                                          Era una forma
                                                          de transmutar
                                                          a la causa
                                                          reivindicativa
                                                          la famosa
                                                          máxima del
                                                          Filósofo
                                                          francés René
                                                          Descartes hace
                                                          ya casi
                                                          cuatrocientos
                                                          años: "Pienso,
                                                          luego existo".</p>
                                                          <p> En
                                                          general, es
                                                          cierto que
                                                          todo sistema
                                                          que pretende
                                                          imponer un
                                                          totalitarismo
                                                          de pensamiento
                                                          único sobre el
                                                          global de la
                                                          ciudadanía, y
                                                          el capitalismo
                                                          lo es, no
                                                          tolera el
                                                          pensamiento
                                                          heterodoxo, no
                                                          al menos
                                                          cuando dicho
                                                          pensamiento
                                                          puede de
                                                          alguna manera
                                                          tener la
                                                          capacidad de
                                                          llegar a
                                                          amplias capas
                                                          de la
                                                          sociedad, y
                                                          poner en
                                                          peligro el
                                                          funcionamiento
                                                          mismo del
                                                          sistema. El
                                                          "Pienso, luego
                                                          estorbo", es
                                                          una frase que
                                                          puede ser
                                                          perfectamente
                                                          válida para la
                                                          sociedad
                                                          consumista-capitalista
                                                          actual, pero
                                                          lo es también
                                                          para otros
                                                          muchos tipos
                                                          de sociedades,
                                                          desde las
                                                          tradicionales
                                                          sociedades
                                                          teológicas, a
                                                          las sociedades
                                                          impuestas por
                                                          los fascismos
                                                          del siglo XX,
                                                          e incluso para
                                                          muchas
                                                          pequeñas
                                                          sociedades
                                                          tribales donde
                                                          el global de
                                                          la población
                                                          se mueve al
                                                          son que marca
                                                          una misma y
                                                          uniforme
                                                          estructura
                                                          cultural,
                                                          aunque,
                                                          obviamente,
                                                          las
                                                          diferencias en
                                                          cuanto a fines
                                                          de estas
                                                          últimas
                                                          estructuras
                                                          con las
                                                          anteriores
                                                          sean más que
                                                          evidentes a
                                                          poco que se
                                                          tenga un
                                                          mínimo
                                                          conocimiento
                                                          en
                                                          Antropología
                                                          social y
                                                          cultural.</p>
                                                          <p> Sin
                                                          embargo, por
                                                          ello mismo,
                                                          tal frase no
                                                          sirve para
                                                          determinar una
                                                          crítica
                                                          específica al
                                                          sistema
                                                          consumista-capitalista
                                                          actual, en el
                                                          que cual viven
                                                          miles de
                                                          millones de
                                                          personas en
                                                          todo el mundo,
                                                          y,
                                                          específicamente,
                                                          es el sistema
                                                          hegemónico y
                                                          dominante en
                                                          eso que llaman
                                                          eufemísticamente
                                                          el mundo
                                                          desarrollado.
                                                          Más, por no
                                                          salirnos de la
                                                          famosa máxima
                                                          cartesiana,
                                                          bien estaría
                                                          completar la
                                                          frase-protesta,
                                                          dando sentido
                                                          a la otra
                                                          parte de la
                                                          reflexión
                                                          solipsista
                                                          propuesta por
                                                          Descartes:
                                                          "Pienso, luego
                                                          estorbo.
                                                          Consumo, luego
                                                          existo", diría
                                                          yo.</p>
                                                          <p> Ahora sí,
                                                          con esta otra
                                                          frase, tenemos
                                                          definido
                                                          perfectamente
                                                          el espíritu
                                                          totalitario
                                                          que rige
                                                          nuestra actual
                                                          sociedad
                                                          consumista-capitalista.
                                                          El capitalismo
                                                          quiere gente
                                                          que piense
                                                          poco y que
                                                          compre mucho.
                                                          Quiere
                                                          convertir, ha
                                                          convertido, de
                                                          hecho, a las
                                                          personas en
                                                          meros sujetos
                                                          consumistas,
                                                          sujetos-mercancía
                                                          cuyo valor
                                                          social se mide
                                                          por su
                                                          capacidad de
                                                          consumo, que,
                                                          por supuesto,
                                                          previamente
                                                          deben poner su
                                                          fuerza de
                                                          trabajo al
                                                          servicio de
                                                          las
                                                          estructuras
                                                          productivas en
                                                          manos de la
                                                          burguesía, del
                                                          estado
                                                          burgués, y, en
                                                          general, de
                                                          los intereses
                                                          de las clases
                                                          explotadoras
                                                          que controlan
                                                          con mano de
                                                          hierro los
                                                          designios de
                                                          la economía
                                                          globalizada,
                                                          del
                                                          sistema-mundo
                                                          capitalista.
                                                          O, por
                                                          convertirlo en
                                                          un eslogan de
                                                          estos que se
                                                          están
                                                          escuchando
                                                          estos días por
                                                          las Plazas del
                                                          estado
                                                          español, el
                                                          capitalismo te
                                                          dice: ¡Menos
                                                          pensar, y más
                                                          comprar!. Esa
                                                          es su máxima,
                                                          la máxima por
                                                          excelencia de
                                                          la sociedad
                                                          consumista-capitalista.</p>
                                                          <p> <b>No
                                                          pienso, luego
                                                          no estorbo. No
                                                          consumo, luego
                                                          no existo</b></p>
                                                          <p> Apliquemos
                                                          ahora una
                                                          negación a la
                                                          máxima
                                                          mencionada:
                                                          "No pienso,
                                                          luego no
                                                          estorbo. No
                                                          consumo, luego
                                                          no existo". No
                                                          es negación
                                                          casual. Si
                                                          partimos de la
                                                          base de que la
                                                          inmensa
                                                          mayoría de la
                                                          población
                                                          vive, ha
                                                          vivido mucho
                                                          tiempo, y
                                                          seguirá
                                                          probablemente
                                                          viviendo otro
                                                          mucho más, sin
                                                          cuestionarse
                                                          el
                                                          funcionamiento
                                                          real del
                                                          sistema
                                                          capitalista,
                                                          sin pensar si
                                                          es un sistema
                                                          justo o
                                                          injusto, sin
                                                          preocuparse si
                                                          la riqueza de
                                                          unos se
                                                          construye
                                                          sobre la
                                                          pobreza de
                                                          otros, sin
                                                          querer ver que
                                                          la miseria y
                                                          el
                                                          subdesarrollo
                                                          de los pueblos
                                                          del tercer
                                                          mundo es una
                                                          consecuencia
                                                          directa del
                                                          desarollo de
                                                          los países del
                                                          primer mundo
                                                          fundamentado
                                                          en buena parte
                                                          sobre la
                                                          explotación de
                                                          los recursos
                                                          naturales y
                                                          humanos de
                                                          estos
                                                          primeros,
                                                          podemos
                                                          afirmar que es
                                                          un hecho que
                                                          la inmensa
                                                          mayoría de la
                                                          población
                                                          vive, ha
                                                          vivido, y
                                                          vivirá "sin
                                                          pensar", luego
                                                          no estorba. Y
                                                          como no
                                                          estorba, no
                                                          siente las
                                                          cadenas.</p>
                                                          <p> La inmesa
                                                          mayoría de la
                                                          población
                                                          simplemente se
                                                          deja llevar
                                                          por la
                                                          corriente
                                                          cultural
                                                          inserta en la
                                                          sociedad que
                                                          impone los
                                                          valores
                                                          propios de la
                                                          sociedad de
                                                          consumo como
                                                          valores de
                                                          pensamiento
                                                          único,
                                                          hegemónico y
                                                          dominante,
                                                          haciendo suyas
                                                          las metas
                                                          sociales que
                                                          se le imponen
                                                          desde esta, y
                                                          determinando
                                                          el sentido de
                                                          sus vidas
                                                          según los
                                                          códigos
                                                          culturales que
                                                          emanan
                                                          directamente
                                                          de la
                                                          ideología
                                                          consumista-capitalista
                                                          dominante. Los
                                                          proyectos de
                                                          vida de
                                                          millones de
                                                          personas en
                                                          los países
                                                          desarrollados,
                                                          se han
                                                          construído, y
                                                          se construyen,
                                                          sobre la base
                                                          de la
                                                          exigencias
                                                          propias que la
                                                          sociedad de
                                                          consumo impone
                                                          en la
                                                          mentalidad de
                                                          los individuos
                                                          que la
                                                          conforman,
                                                          especialmente,
                                                          y de manera
                                                          clara, sobre
                                                          los miembros
                                                          de las clases
                                                          trabajadoras,
                                                          a los cuales
                                                          se los
                                                          consigue
                                                          alienar con
                                                          los
                                                          fundamentos
                                                          sociales del
                                                          sistema
                                                          haciéndoles
                                                          creer que los
                                                          intereses de
                                                          la sociedad de
                                                          consumo, son
                                                          equitativos a
                                                          sus propios
                                                          intereses como
                                                          ciudadanos, a
                                                          sus propios
                                                          intereses como
                                                          sujetos que
                                                          han sido
                                                          arrojados a la
                                                          existencia, y
                                                          que necesitan
                                                          de un proyecto
                                                          vital, una
                                                          expectivas,
                                                          unas metas y
                                                          unos códigos
                                                          culturales
                                                          valorativos
                                                          que les srivan
                                                          de guía para
                                                          dar valor a
                                                          sus propias
                                                          vidas, desde
                                                          sus propios
                                                          juicios de
                                                          sentido.</p>
                                                          <p> Esta
                                                          situación es
                                                          especialmente
                                                          significativa
                                                          en las
                                                          actuales
                                                          generaciones
                                                          de la juventud
                                                          del estado
                                                          español,
                                                          primeras
                                                          generaciones,
                                                          las nacidas
                                                          después de la
                                                          muerte de
                                                          Franco
                                                          principalmente,
                                                          educadas
                                                          plenamente en
                                                          los valores de
                                                          la sociedad
                                                          consumo, a las
                                                          que se les ha
                                                          martilleado
                                                          incesantemente
                                                          con todos y
                                                          cada uno de
                                                          los códigos
                                                          culturales
                                                          impuestos por
                                                          dicha
                                                          sociedad,
                                                          sustentados
                                                          sobre dos
                                                          principios
                                                          fundamentales:
                                                          el amor al
                                                          dinero y el
                                                          sagrado
                                                          respeto a la
                                                          propiedad
                                                          privada, las
                                                          dos deidades
                                                          por excelencia
                                                          de la sociedad
                                                          de consumo, de
                                                          las que emanan
                                                          todos los
                                                          demás valores
                                                          y mitos
                                                          impuestos como
                                                          verdades
                                                          absolutas en
                                                          la mentalidad
                                                          de los
                                                          ciudadanos y
                                                          ciudadanas.</p>
                                                          <p> Dentro de
                                                          esos códigos
                                                          de valores,
                                                          por supuesto,
                                                          se incluye el
                                                          mencionado
                                                          "Consumo,
                                                          luego existo".
                                                          Tengo la
                                                          impresión de
                                                          que esta
                                                          repentina
                                                          explosión de
                                                          indignación
                                                          generalizada,
                                                          especialmente
                                                          de esas
                                                          generaciones
                                                          nacidas
                                                          después de la
                                                          muerte de
                                                          Franco y que
                                                          algunos
                                                          estaban
                                                          llamando ya la
                                                          generación
                                                          perdida, o la
                                                          generación
                                                          ni-ni, tiene
                                                          mucho que ver
                                                          con la
                                                          negación de la
                                                          máxima
                                                          capitalista
                                                          que sirve de
                                                          referencia
                                                          para las
                                                          reflexiones de
                                                          este artículo.
                                                          Posiblemente,
                                                          tal explosión
                                                          tenga mucho
                                                          que ver con el
                                                          paso dado
                                                          desde
                                                          planteamientos
                                                          generalizados
                                                          de "No pienso,
                                                          luego no
                                                          estorbo", a
                                                          una situación
                                                          devenida en
                                                          "No consumo,
                                                          luego no
                                                          existo".</p>
                                                          <p> Después de
                                                          toda una vida
                                                          dejándose
                                                          arrastrar por
                                                          los valores
                                                          propios de la
                                                          sociedad de
                                                          consumo,
                                                          habiendo
                                                          hechos suyos
                                                          tales valores
                                                          como
                                                          principios de
                                                          vida, de haber
                                                          pensado que el
                                                          éxito social
                                                          es aquel que
                                                          viene definido
                                                          por las
                                                          estructuras
                                                          propias del
                                                          sistema, de no
                                                          haber
                                                          cuestionado en
                                                          ningún momento
                                                          si dicho
                                                          sistema es
                                                          justo o
                                                          injusto, no de
                                                          haberse parado
                                                          a pensar si
                                                          realmente
                                                          había algún
                                                          tipo de
                                                          alternativa al
                                                          sistema de
                                                          valores
                                                          sociales
                                                          dominante, de
                                                          haber creído,
                                                          consciente o
                                                          inconscientemente,
                                                          que
                                                          simplemente
                                                          había que
                                                          dejarse
                                                          arrastrar por
                                                          la corriente
                                                          mayoritaria
                                                          para alcanzar
                                                          eso que se
                                                          conoce como
                                                          una vida
                                                          "digna", de no
                                                          cuestionar el
                                                          papel del
                                                          dinero en la
                                                          sociedad (es
                                                          más, habiendo
                                                          hecho del
                                                          dinero el
                                                          motor central
                                                          de sus
                                                          expectativas
                                                          de vida y el
                                                          guión estrella
                                                          de las
                                                          películas de
                                                          sus sueños), y
                                                          de no haberse
                                                          planteado en
                                                          ningún momento
                                                          el rol
                                                          determinante
                                                          que juega la
                                                          posesión de la
                                                          propiedad
                                                          privada de los
                                                          medios de
                                                          producción en
                                                          la estructura
                                                          productiva (y
                                                          la consecuente
                                                          explotación y
                                                          control del
                                                          poder político
                                                          que de ella se
                                                          deriva), de
                                                          repente una
                                                          generación
                                                          entera se ha
                                                          visto abocada
                                                          a una
                                                          situación en
                                                          la que nada
                                                          tiene, en la
                                                          que todos esos
                                                          sueños
                                                          construídos
                                                          sobre el valor
                                                          del dinero y
                                                          sobre los
                                                          códigos
                                                          culturales
                                                          propios del
                                                          capitalismo,
                                                          se ha acabado
                                                          por convertir
                                                          en una
                                                          pesadilla, su
                                                          propia
                                                          pesadilla
                                                          consumista-capitalista:
                                                          "No consumo,
                                                          luego no
                                                          existo".</p>
                                                          <p> <b>Tanto
                                                          tienes, tanto
                                                          vales: si nada
                                                          tienes, nada
                                                          vales</b></p>
                                                          <p> No
                                                          pensaron,
                                                          luego no
                                                          estorbaban.
                                                          Pero por no
                                                          pensar, no
                                                          pensaron si
                                                          quiera que
                                                          dejarse
                                                          arrastrar por
                                                          los valores de
                                                          la sociedad de
                                                          consumo, por
                                                          el "Consumo,
                                                          luego existo",
                                                          por el "tanto
                                                          tienes, tanto
                                                          vales", era
                                                          una peligrosa
                                                          arma de doble
                                                          filo: si no
                                                          tienes para
                                                          consumir,
                                                          dejas de
                                                          existir; si
                                                          nada tienes,
                                                          nada vales.</p>
                                                          <p> Ahora,
                                                          cuando de
                                                          repente han
                                                          empezado a
                                                          descubir,
                                                          abocados por
                                                          las
                                                          circunstancias
                                                          socioeconómicas,
                                                          que para la
                                                          sociedad de
                                                          consumo nada
                                                          tienen los que
                                                          nada poseén,
                                                          que ellos, en
                                                          realidad,
                                                          nunca tuvieron
                                                          nada, y que
                                                          ahora además
                                                          tienen menos
                                                          que nada: no
                                                          tienen si
                                                          quiera un
                                                          futuro de
                                                          oportunidades
                                                          al que
                                                          agarrarse,
                                                          que, en
                                                          definitiva,
                                                          "nada tienen,
                                                          nada valen",
                                                          que han dejado
                                                          de existir
                                                          según sus
                                                          propios
                                                          códigos de
                                                          valores
                                                          previamente
                                                          interiorizados
                                                          desde las
                                                          estructuras
                                                          ideológicas y
                                                          culturales de
                                                          la sociedad de
                                                          consumo, se
                                                          han cabreado,
                                                          y con razón:
                                                          Se han
                                                          indignado.</p>
                                                          <p> Es una
                                                          indignación
                                                          personal,
                                                          fruto
                                                          principalmente
                                                          de la
                                                          frustración
                                                          que genera
                                                          sentir, darse
                                                          cuenta, que
                                                          todo aquello
                                                          que te habían
                                                          hecho creer,
                                                          que todos esos
                                                          códigos de
                                                          valores que te
                                                          han hecho
                                                          aprender como
                                                          auténticas
                                                          verdades
                                                          absolutas,
                                                          como
                                                          auténticos
                                                          valores
                                                          sagrados, no
                                                          son más que un
                                                          engaño, una
                                                          patraña, una
                                                          fantasía, una
                                                          estrategia
                                                          para que te
                                                          sometas a unos
                                                          intereses que
                                                          no son los
                                                          tuyos, para
                                                          que te dejes
                                                          arrastrar por
                                                          una sociedad
                                                          donde para que
                                                          unos pocos
                                                          ganen muchos,
                                                          otros muchos
                                                          tienen que
                                                          perderlo todo.
                                                          La naturaleza
                                                          del
                                                          capitalismo,
                                                          escondida tras
                                                          una realidad
                                                          de
                                                          ensoñaciones
                                                          egoistas y
                                                          consumistas
                                                          fruto de la
                                                          alienación,
                                                          nada más.</p>
                                                          <p> Es una
                                                          indignación,
                                                          por tanto, que
                                                          nace de creer,
                                                          de haber
                                                          estado toda la
                                                          vida creyendo,
                                                          que uno "vale
                                                          por lo que
                                                          tiene" (el
                                                          triunfo del
                                                          tener frente
                                                          al ser, decía
                                                          Fromm), y que,
                                                          en
                                                          consecuencia,
                                                          al no tener
                                                          nada,
                                                          irremediablemente
                                                          te lleva a
                                                          acabar
                                                          creyendo,
                                                          aunque solo
                                                          sea
                                                          incoscientemente,
                                                          que no vales
                                                          nada:
                                                          frustración,
                                                          desencanto,
                                                          malestar
                                                          interno. Nada
                                                          tengo, nada
                                                          valgo. No
                                                          consumo, luego
                                                          no existo.</p>
                                                          <p> En esas
                                                          estamos: nada
                                                          tenemos, nada
                                                          valemos. O eso
                                                          pensamos.
                                                          ¡Indigados!</p>
                                                          <p> <b>¿Egoismo
                                                          o lucha por la
                                                          justicia
                                                          social?</b></p>
                                                          <p> Tal vez
                                                          esto sirva
                                                          para explicar
                                                          porqué los
                                                          mismos que se
                                                          negaron a
                                                          salir a
                                                          protestar
                                                          contra los
                                                          recortes
                                                          sociales en la
                                                          Huelga general
                                                          del 29 de
                                                          Septiembre,
                                                          que poco menos
                                                          querían
                                                          fusilar a los
                                                          controladores
                                                          aéreos por
                                                          atreverse a
                                                          hacer una
                                                          huelga
                                                          legítima
                                                          mientras pocos
                                                          días antes no
                                                          se habían
                                                          indignado en
                                                          absoluto
                                                          cuando el
                                                          gobierno
                                                          anunció el fin
                                                          de la
                                                          prestación a
                                                          los parados de
                                                          larga
                                                          duración, que
                                                          hasta
                                                          prácticamente
                                                          ayer preferían
                                                          charlar sobre
                                                          fútbol con sus
                                                          colegas que
                                                          leer un
                                                          artículo sobre
                                                          los orígenes
                                                          de la crisis
                                                          en cualquier
                                                          web de
                                                          internet, que
                                                          pasaban por el
                                                          lado de una
                                                          manifestación
                                                          de la
                                                          izquierda
                                                          alternativa y
                                                          poco menos que
                                                          la veían como
                                                          una atracción
                                                          de feria, que
                                                          nunca jamás
                                                          pensaron que
                                                          era necesario
                                                          un cambio
                                                          social para
                                                          acabar con las
                                                          insjusticias
                                                          del sistema
                                                          capitalista,
                                                          ahora hayan
                                                          salido en masa
                                                          a las calles,
                                                          junto a esa
                                                          izquierda
                                                          combativa y
                                                          reivindicativa
                                                          que ha estado
                                                          ahí, en la
                                                          calle, desde
                                                          hace mucho, a
                                                          pedir poco
                                                          menos que una
                                                          reforma
                                                          integral de
                                                          los principios
                                                          fundamentales
                                                          que sustentan
                                                          el estado
                                                          burgués desde
                                                          las
                                                          instituciones:
                                                          el poder
                                                          financiero y
                                                          el poder
                                                          político
                                                          arrojado en
                                                          manos de los
                                                          testaferros de
                                                          este primero.</p>
                                                          <p> Y tal vez,
                                                          esto explica
                                                          también,
                                                          porque se
                                                          niegan
                                                          muchos/as a
                                                          que los llamen
                                                          antisistema:
                                                          sencillamente
                                                          porque no son
                                                          antisistema. </p>
                                                          <p>No lo son:
                                                          están
                                                          cabreados,
                                                          indignados,
                                                          porque el
                                                          sistema los
                                                          excluye, no
                                                          porque el
                                                          sistema
                                                          excluya, sin
                                                          más. Si los
                                                          excluídos
                                                          fuesen otros,
                                                          como lo han
                                                          sido
                                                          siempre...</p>
                                                          <p>Están
                                                          cabreados
                                                          porque el
                                                          sistema los ha
                                                          engañado a
                                                          ellos (mi, yo,
                                                          conmigo), no
                                                          porque el
                                                          sistema sea
                                                          injusto, fuese
                                                          injusto aún
                                                          cuando ellos
                                                          preferían
                                                          dejarse llevar
                                                          por la
                                                          corriente, y
                                                          aún cuando
                                                          ellos no
                                                          formase parte
                                                          de los
                                                          excluídos del
                                                          sistema, si es
                                                          que alguna vez
                                                          no lo han
                                                          formado. "No
                                                          son
                                                          antisistema,
                                                          el sistema es
                                                          anti ellos",
                                                          dicen. Y
                                                          llevan razón,
                                                          insisto.</p>
                                                          <p> Están
                                                          cabreados
                                                          porque sus
                                                          sueños,
                                                          determinados y
                                                          condicionados
                                                          por los
                                                          valores del
                                                          sistema, no se
                                                          cumplen, a una
                                                          misma vez que
                                                          ven que hay
                                                          otros que
                                                          siguen
                                                          viviendo a
                                                          todo tren
                                                          dentro de esos
                                                          valores del
                                                          sistema con
                                                          los que ellos
                                                          siempre han
                                                          estado, y
                                                          siguen
                                                          estando, de
                                                          acuerdo;
                                                          aunque ahora
                                                          se quejen. </p>
                                                          <p>Están
                                                          cabreados
                                                          porque ahora
                                                          el sistema que
                                                          abrazaron como
                                                          fuente única
                                                          de sus
                                                          proyectos
                                                          vitales, del
                                                          sentido de sus
                                                          vidas, en base
                                                          a esos mismos
                                                          proyectos
                                                          vitales, los
                                                          ha dejado
                                                          fuera de
                                                          juego. Off
                                                          side. Fallo se
                                                          sistema
                                                          (interno).</p>
                                                          <p>Están
                                                          cabreados
                                                          porque
                                                          quisieran
                                                          tener todo eso
                                                          con lo que
                                                          siempre han
                                                          soñado:
                                                          dinero, éxito,
                                                          un coche
                                                          lujoso, un
                                                          piso en
                                                          propiedad,
                                                          etc, etc., y
                                                          no pueden
                                                          tenerlo; no
                                                          les dejan
                                                          tenerlo; pese
                                                          a que hay
                                                          otros que sí
                                                          lo tiene, lo
                                                          siguen
                                                          teniendo.</p>
                                                          <p> No están
                                                          cabreados
                                                          porque el
                                                          sistema sea
                                                          intrínsecamente
                                                          injusto, no
                                                          están
                                                          cabreados
                                                          porque haya
                                                          explotación a
                                                          gran escala, o
                                                          porque a los
                                                          pueblos del
                                                          tercer mundo
                                                          se les siga
                                                          robando día a
                                                          día sus
                                                          riquezas, no
                                                          están
                                                          cabreados
                                                          porque el
                                                          modelo
                                                          productivo
                                                          esté llevando
                                                          al Planeta a
                                                          su exterminio,
                                                          ni están
                                                          cabreados, en
                                                          definitiva,
                                                          porque el
                                                          fundamento
                                                          mismo del
                                                          sistema sea la
                                                          desigualdad
                                                          económica y la
                                                          injusticia
                                                          social, sino,
                                                          simplemente,
                                                          porque ahora,
                                                          en medio de
                                                          esta crisis
                                                          económica
                                                          gigantesca, de
                                                          esta envestida
                                                          brutal de las
                                                          clases
                                                          explotadoras
                                                          sobre los
                                                          intereses y
                                                          derechos de
                                                          las clases
                                                          trabajadoras,
                                                          ellos (mi, yo,
                                                          conmigo),
                                                          están
                                                          perdiendo: se
                                                          han quedado
                                                          fuera de sus
                                                          propios sueños
consumistas-capitalistas.</p>
                                                          <p> <b>De
                                                          1984 a un
                                                          "Mundo Feliz":
                                                          la naturaleza
                                                          de los
                                                          indignados que
                                                          dicen no ser
                                                          antisistema</b></p>
                                                          <p>Escribía el
                                                          otro día en un
                                                          artículo sobre
                                                          el 15-M y la
                                                          lucha de
                                                          clases, que me
                                                          parecía
                                                          orwelliano que
                                                          fuese posible
                                                          manifestarse
                                                          contra el
                                                          sistema, y
                                                          creer que no
                                                          se es un
                                                          anticapitalista,
                                                          o, más
                                                          orwelliano
                                                          aún, que fuese
                                                          posible pedir
                                                          la cabeza de
                                                          políticos y
                                                          banqueros, de
                                                          boca de
                                                          precarios,
                                                          parados y
                                                          explotados,
                                                          pero sin que
                                                          tal hecho sea,
                                                          pueda ser,
                                                          lucha de
                                                          clases.
                                                          Obviamente,
                                                          sigo pensando
                                                          lo mismo. Toda
                                                          expresión de
                                                          resistencia y
                                                          lucha de las
                                                          clases
                                                          trabajadoras
                                                          contra las
                                                          injusticias
                                                          generadas por
                                                          el sistema
                                                          capitalista,
                                                          contra los
                                                          privilegios de
                                                          las clases
                                                          oligárquicas,
                                                          son una
                                                          manifestación
                                                          de la lucha de
                                                          clases, aunque
                                                          los presentes
                                                          no tengan
                                                          consciencia de
                                                          ello, porque
                                                          simplemente no
                                                          sepan siquiera
                                                          qué es eso de
                                                          la lucha de
                                                          clases. </p>
                                                          <p>Sin
                                                          embargo, como
                                                          casi todo lo
                                                          relacionado
                                                          con el sistema
                                                          totalitario de
                                                          pensamiento
                                                          único impuesto
                                                          por las
                                                          estructuras
                                                          culturales y
                                                          políticas
                                                          consumistas-capitalistas,
                                                          profundizando
                                                          un poco en la
                                                          naturaleza de
                                                          este
                                                          movimiento que
                                                          se ha generado
                                                          tras dicha
                                                          fecha (15-M),
                                                          me parece que
                                                          tal hecho
                                                          tiene mucho
                                                          más que ver
                                                          con algunos
                                                          aspectos
                                                          narrativos
                                                          presentes en
                                                          "Un mundo
                                                          Feliz", de
                                                          Aldous Huxley,
                                                          que con lo
                                                          escrito por
                                                          Orwell en
                                                          1984, aunque
                                                          ambas
                                                          perspectivas
                                                          son
                                                          perfectamente
                                                          complementarias
                                                          para el caso
                                                          que nos
                                                          atiene: la
                                                          posición de
                                                          ese grupo de
                                                          "indignados"
                                                          que una misma
                                                          vez que
                                                          protestan
                                                          contra el
                                                          sistema, dicen
                                                          no ser
                                                          antisistemas;
                                                          que, en todo
                                                          caso, el
                                                          sistema es
                                                          antiellos
                                                          (sic). </p>
                                                          <p>En
                                                          concreto,
                                                          decía que me
                                                          parecía
                                                          orwelliana
                                                          dicha
                                                          situación, en
                                                          la medida que
                                                          me recordaba a
                                                          la idea
                                                          expresada en
                                                          1984 a través
                                                          del concepto
                                                          "Doblepensar",
                                                          esto es, la
                                                          capacidad de
                                                          pensar como
                                                          verdaderas,
                                                          desafiando el
                                                          princio de no
                                                          cotradicción
                                                          presente en
                                                          toda lógica
                                                          desde Platón y
                                                          Aristóteles,
                                                          una
                                                          proposición y
                                                          su contraria,
                                                          y poner al fin
                                                          cualquiera de
                                                          ellas al
                                                          servicio del
                                                          pensamiento
                                                          único cuando
                                                          así sea
                                                          requerido por
                                                          el sistema.
                                                          Rebelarse
                                                          contra el
                                                          sistema
                                                          conscientemente
                                                          y decir a una
                                                          misma vez que
                                                          no se es
                                                          antisistema,
                                                          me parecía una
                                                          buena muestra
                                                          de tal
                                                          concepto. Me
                                                          lo sigue
                                                          pareciendo, de
                                                          hecho.</p>
                                                          <p>Doblepensar,
                                                          según el
                                                          magnífico
                                                          libro de
                                                          Orwell,
                                                          significa en
                                                          concreto el
                                                          poder, la
                                                          facultad de
                                                          sostener dos
                                                          opiniones
                                                          contradictorias
                                                          simultáneamente,
                                                          dos creencias
                                                          contrarias
                                                          albergadas a
                                                          la vez en la
                                                          mente. El
                                                          intelectual
                                                          del Partido
                                                          (que controla
                                                          el poder en la
                                                          sociedad
                                                          descrita por
                                                          el escritor
                                                          inglés en su
                                                          famosa novela)
                                                          sabe en qué
                                                          dirección han
                                                          de ser
                                                          alterados sus
                                                          recuerdos; por
                                                          tanto, sabe
                                                          que está
                                                          trucando la
                                                          realidad; pero
                                                          al mismo
                                                          tiempo se
                                                          satisface a sí
                                                          mismo por
                                                          medio del
                                                          ejercicio del
                                                          doblepensar en
                                                          el sentido de
                                                          que la
                                                          realidad no
                                                          queda violada.
                                                          Este proceso
                                                          ha de ser
                                                          consciente,
                                                          pues, si no,
                                                          no se
                                                          verificaría
                                                          con la
                                                          suficiente
                                                          precisión,
                                                          pero también
                                                          tiene que ser
                                                          inconsciente
                                                          para que no
                                                          deje un
                                                          sentimiento de
                                                          falsedad y,
                                                          por tanto, de
                                                          culpabilidad.
                                                          El doblepensar
                                                          está arraigado
                                                          en el corazón
                                                          mismo del
                                                          Ingsoc
                                                          (doctrina
                                                          ideológica que
                                                          se impone como
                                                          única en la
                                                          sociedad de
                                                          1984), ya que
                                                          el acto
                                                          esencial del
                                                          Partido es el
                                                          empleo del
                                                          engaño
                                                          consciente,
                                                          conservando a
                                                          la vez la
                                                          firmeza de
                                                          propósito que
                                                          caracteriza a
                                                          la auténtica
                                                          honradez.
                                                          Decir mentiras
                                                          a la vez que
                                                          se cree
                                                          sinceramente
                                                          en ellas,
                                                          olvidar todo
                                                          hecho que no
                                                          convenga
                                                          recordar, y
                                                          luego, cuando
                                                          vuelva a ser
                                                          necesario,
                                                          sacarlo del
                                                          olvido sólo
                                                          por el tiempo
                                                          que convenga,
                                                          negar la
                                                          existencia de
                                                          la realidad
                                                          objetiva sin
                                                          dejar ni por
                                                          un momento de
                                                          saber que
                                                          existe esa
                                                          realidad que
                                                          se niega. Eso
                                                          es el
                                                          doblepensar.</p>
                                                          <p>Así que
                                                          protestar
                                                          contra los
                                                          bancos, el
                                                          sistema
                                                          financiero
                                                          internacional
                                                          o los
                                                          políticos que
                                                          sirven de
                                                          testaferros al
                                                          capital, y, a
                                                          una vez, negar
                                                          que se están
                                                          manteniendo
                                                          planteamientos
                                                          antisistema,
                                                          me parece un
                                                          coherente
                                                          ejercicio de
                                                          doblepensar
                                                          aplicado a la
                                                          sociedad
                                                          consumista-capitalista
                                                          actual. Uno se
                                                          puede rebelar
                                                          contra partes
                                                          del sistema,
                                                          pero negándose
                                                          a sí mismo que
                                                          la condición
                                                          de su protesta
                                                          es antisistema
                                                          se mantiene
                                                          siempre dentro
                                                          de los límites
                                                          y los
                                                          planteamientos
                                                          del sistema.
                                                          Doblepensar...
                                                          al servicio
                                                          del sistema.</p>
                                                          <p>Ahora bien,
                                                          si
                                                          ciertamente,
                                                          como he dicho,
                                                          no reniego de
                                                          esta
                                                          reflexión, y
                                                          la considero
                                                          en buena
                                                          medida válida,
                                                          y
                                                          perfectamente
                                                          ajustada a
                                                          parte de la
                                                          realidad de
                                                          los hechos que
                                                          estamos
                                                          viviendo estos
                                                          días,
                                                          considero
                                                          igualmente que
                                                          existe un
                                                          personaje en
                                                          la novela de
                                                          Huxley ("Un
                                                          Mundo Feliz"),
                                                          que se ajusta
                                                          todavía con
                                                          más exactitud
                                                          a estas
                                                          actitudes de
                                                          negar la
                                                          condición
                                                          antisistema de
                                                          las protestas
                                                          que estos días
                                                          están siendo
                                                          defendidas por
                                                          muchos y
                                                          muchas a
                                                          través de las
                                                          redes
                                                          sociales, los
                                                          foros de
                                                          internet y las
                                                          propias
                                                          asambleas
                                                          ciudadanas de
                                                          los
                                                          "indignados".</p>
                                                          <p>Este
                                                          personaje
                                                          tiene por
                                                          nombre Bernard
                                                          Marx, en la
                                                          novela
                                                          pertenece a la
                                                          casta Alfa-Más
                                                          (una de las
                                                          castas
                                                          superiores),
                                                          pero posee
                                                          características
                                                          diferentes a
                                                          la del resto
                                                          de las
                                                          personas que
                                                          pertenecen a
                                                          ésta, debido a
                                                          que, decían de
                                                          él chistosos
                                                          su
                                                          compañeros/as
                                                          de casta,
                                                          cometieron un
                                                          error en su
                                                          proceso de
                                                          envasado
                                                          (gestación del
                                                          nacimiento del
                                                          individuo a
                                                          medida de lo
                                                          que exige de
                                                          él la
                                                          sociedad) y se
                                                          puso alcohol
                                                          en su ración
                                                          de sucedáneo
                                                          de la sangre.
                                                          Por ello,
                                                          Bernard era
                                                          marginado por
                                                          la sociedad,
                                                          los de su
                                                          casta se reían
                                                          de él, y hasta
                                                          los que no
                                                          pertenecían a
                                                          su casta le
                                                          daban la
                                                          espalda debido
                                                          a sus
                                                          características
                                                          físicas
                                                          diferentes. En
                                                          consecuencia,
                                                          durante buena
                                                          parte de la
                                                          novela Bernard
                                                          Marx muestra
                                                          constantemente
                                                          su indignación
                                                          y su cabreo
                                                          con el
                                                          sistema, no lo
                                                          acepta y trata
                                                          una y otra vez
                                                          de rebelarse
                                                          contra él en
                                                          la medida de
                                                          lo posible.
                                                          Deja de
                                                          obedecer el
                                                          Fordismo
                                                          (doctrina
                                                          ideológica que
                                                          se impone como
                                                          única en esta
                                                          otra novela),
                                                          tiene una
                                                          escandalosa
                                                          vida sexual
                                                          (por ser
                                                          demasiado
                                                          casto en
                                                          relación a la
                                                          promiscuidad
                                                          propia del
                                                          resto de los
                                                          miembros de la
                                                          sociedad) y se
                                                          identifica en
                                                          muchos
                                                          momentos como
                                                          enemigo de la
                                                          sociedad al
                                                          conspirar
                                                          contra el
                                                          orden y la
                                                          estabilidad
                                                          establecida. </p>
                                                          <p>Sin
                                                          embargo, a
                                                          medida que
                                                          avanza la
                                                          novela, por
                                                          una serie de
                                                          hechos que van
                                                          sucediendo y
                                                          que llevan a
                                                          Bernard Marx a
                                                          alcanzar el
                                                          éxito social
                                                          que hasta
                                                          entonces se le
                                                          había negado,
                                                          descubrimos
                                                          que, en
                                                          realidad,
                                                          Bernard no es
                                                          ningún
                                                          antisistema,
                                                          sino que
                                                          únicamente "el
                                                          sistema era
                                                          anti él". En
                                                          cuanto Bernard
                                                          paladea el
                                                          sabor del
                                                          éxito social y
                                                          pasa a ser uno
                                                          más entre los
                                                          de su casta,
                                                          no sólo no
                                                          reniega en
                                                          absoluto de su
                                                          condición como
                                                          tal, sino que
                                                          se muestra
                                                          como el más
                                                          fiel defensor
                                                          de los valores
                                                          propios del
                                                          sistema que
                                                          por tanto
                                                          tiempo
                                                          detestaba, o
                                                          de alguna
                                                          manera trataba
                                                          de detestar,
                                                          porque lo
                                                          estaban
                                                          excluyendo. En
                                                          cambio, cuando
                                                          el sistema
                                                          pasó a
                                                          brindarle sus
                                                          favores, a
                                                          Bernard se le
                                                          olvidó toda
                                                          crítica contra
                                                          el sistema, es
                                                          más, amaba el
                                                          sistema como
                                                          el que más,
                                                          estaba tan
                                                          determinado
                                                          por los
                                                          valores
                                                          impuestos por
                                                          el sistema,
                                                          como todos
                                                          aquellos a los
                                                          que tanto
                                                          había
                                                          criticado
                                                          desde
                                                          perspectivas
                                                          coyunturalmente
                                                          antisistema
                                                          cuando el
                                                          excluído era
                                                          él. </p>
                                                          <p>Este
                                                          personaje
                                                          contrasta
                                                          además con la
                                                          existencia de
                                                          otro personaje
                                                          en la novela,
                                                          Helmholtz
                                                          Watson, que,
                                                          pese a tener
                                                          todo lo
                                                          necesario para
                                                          ser un
                                                          triunfador
                                                          dentro de los
                                                          valores
                                                          establecidos
                                                          por el
                                                          sistema, y de
                                                          hecho lo era,
                                                          se rebela
                                                          conscientemente
                                                          contra él, al
                                                          entender que
                                                          su capacidad
                                                          de pensamiento
                                                          crítico, su
                                                          libertad como
                                                          sujeto, y sus
                                                          perspectivas
                                                          de futuro
                                                          estaban
                                                          totalmente
                                                          determinadas
                                                          por el
                                                          sistema, un
                                                          sistema que
                                                          además era
                                                          injusto y
                                                          generaba una
                                                          desigualdades
                                                          inaceptables.
                                                          Con el
                                                          desarollo de
                                                          la novela, por
                                                          su lado,
                                                          descubrimos
                                                          que Helmholtz
                                                          Watson era un
                                                          verdadero
                                                          antisistema,
                                                          consciente y
                                                          orgulloso, a
                                                          diferencia de
                                                          su amigo
                                                          Bernard Marx,
                                                          al que en
                                                          muchos
                                                          momentos se
                                                          había sentido
                                                          unido por ser
                                                          ambos críticos
                                                          con el
                                                          sistema, y
                                                          estar en
                                                          apariencia en
                                                          una misma
                                                          sintonía
                                                          ideológica. </p>
                                                          <p>Sin
                                                          embargo,
                                                          llegada la
                                                          hora de la
                                                          verdad, cuando
                                                          ambos
                                                          personajes son
                                                          condenados a
                                                          ser
                                                          desterrados a
                                                          la "isla", una
                                                          especie de
                                                          lugar de
                                                          castigo donde
                                                          se llevaban a
                                                          las personas
                                                          que
                                                          desarollaban
                                                          un pensamiento
                                                          subjetivo no
                                                          acorde a los
                                                          valores
                                                          propios del
                                                          Fordismo
                                                          (sistema único
                                                          de
                                                          pensamiento),
                                                          Helmholtz
                                                          Watson (Pienso
                                                          luego
                                                          estorbo), se
                                                          siente feliz,
                                                          pues allí
                                                          podrá
                                                          continuar con
                                                          la elaboración
                                                          de su propio
                                                          pensamiento,
                                                          allí podrá
                                                          seguir
                                                          pensando por
                                                          sí mismo, y
                                                          allí podrá,
                                                          además,
                                                          conocer otras
                                                          personas que
                                                          también están
                                                          en esa misma
                                                          dinámica
                                                          antisistema
                                                          que les
                                                          permite tener
                                                          y desarollar
                                                          su propio
                                                          pensamiento al
                                                          margen de lo
                                                          impuesto por
                                                          el sistema
                                                          totalitario
                                                          dominante y
                                                          hegemómico en
                                                          la sociedad de
                                                          "Un mundo
                                                          feliz".
                                                          Bernard Marx,
                                                          por su parte,
                                                          (Consumo luego
                                                          existo), al
                                                          enterarse de
                                                          la noticia,
                                                          dice que
                                                          prefiere ser
                                                          ejecutado
                                                          antes de lo
                                                          que envíen a
                                                          esa isla al
                                                          margen de la
                                                          sociedad,
                                                          antes de que,
                                                          en definitiva,
                                                          lo saquen del
                                                          sistema, de un
                                                          sistema que él
                                                          simplemente
                                                          había
                                                          cuestionado de
                                                          manera
                                                          coyuntural por
                                                          sentirse
                                                          exluído y
                                                          rechazado del
                                                          mismo, en
                                                          ningún caso
                                                          por creer de
                                                          veras que el
                                                          sistema era
                                                          injusto. He
                                                          aquí la
                                                          confrontación
                                                          que da título
                                                          a este
                                                          artículo:
                                                          "Pienso luego
                                                          estobor vs
                                                          consumo luego
                                                          existo". 
                                                          Helmholtz
                                                          Watson vs
                                                          Bernard Marx.</p>
                                                          <p>Mucho me
                                                          temo que, al
                                                          menos por
                                                          ahora, entre
                                                          los asistentes
                                                          a este
                                                          movimiento de
                                                          los
                                                          indignados,
                                                          hay muchos más
                                                          Bernard Marx,
                                                          que Helmholtz
                                                          Watson, es
                                                          decir, muchos
                                                          más que se
                                                          manifiestan
                                                          contra el
                                                          sistema única
                                                          y
                                                          exclusivamente
                                                          porque el
                                                          sistema, de
                                                          manera
                                                          coyuntural, es
                                                          antiellos, que
                                                          porque
                                                          realmente
                                                          crean que el
                                                          sistema es
                                                          injusto y
                                                          habría que
                                                          cambiarlo
                                                          hacia otro
                                                          modelo de
                                                          sociedad y
                                                          otro sistema
                                                          económico, más
                                                          igualitaria,
                                                          más justo. </p>
                                                          <p>Muchos,
                                                          que, a la hora
                                                          de la verdad,
                                                          preferían ser
                                                          "ejecutados"
                                                          antes que ver
                                                          cambiado el
                                                          sistema,
                                                          muchos que
                                                          tienen tan
                                                          interiorizados
                                                          los valores
                                                          del sistema,
                                                          que por más
                                                          que se
                                                          manifiesten
                                                          contra
                                                          aspectos
                                                          concretos de
                                                          él, a la hora
                                                          de la verdad
                                                          estarían en la
                                                          barricada que
                                                          defienda el
                                                          sistema, si
                                                          llegase el
                                                          momento de una
                                                          verdadera
                                                          revolución que
                                                          quisiese
                                                          acabar de una
                                                          vez y para
                                                          siempre con el
                                                          capitalismo. </p>
                                                          <p>Puede que
                                                          Bernad Marx y
                                                          Helmholtz
                                                          Watson
                                                          convergan en
                                                          un momento
                                                          determinado en
                                                          sus
                                                          planteamientos
                                                          y
                                                          reivindicaciones,
                                                          incluso en sus
                                                          luchas, como
                                                          ahora está
                                                          convergiendo
                                                          la Izquierda
                                                          anticapitalista
                                                          y
                                                          revolucionaria
                                                          de siempre con
                                                          grupos de
                                                          "nuevos
                                                          indignados"
                                                          que se rebelan
                                                          contra su
                                                          exclusión
                                                          coyuntural del
                                                          sistema. Pero
                                                          que nadie se
                                                          confunda,
                                                          mientras el
                                                          Bernard Marx
                                                          de turno no
                                                          cambie sus
                                                          valores y sus
                                                          perspectiva
                                                          contra el
                                                          sistema,
                                                          mientras no
                                                          asuma una
                                                          consciencia
                                                          clara de que
                                                          el capitalismo
                                                          es un sistema
                                                          intrínsecamente
                                                          desigual e
                                                          injusto, que
                                                          hay que
                                                          derrocar para
                                                          que la
                                                          sociedad y el
                                                          mundo puedan
                                                          avanzar hacia
                                                          otro modelo
                                                          necesario de
                                                          justicia
                                                          social y fin
                                                          de la
                                                          explotación
                                                          del hombre por
                                                          el hombre,
                                                          podrán
                                                          convenger
                                                          coyunturalmente,
                                                          pero no están
                                                          en el mismo
                                                          bando. No lo
                                                          están, aunque
                                                          lo parezca.</p>
                                                          <p>Al igual
                                                          que el
                                                          personaje de
                                                          la novela de
                                                          "Un mundo
                                                          feliz",
                                                          Bernard Marx,
                                                          si esos que
                                                          ahora están en
                                                          las
                                                          "barricadas"
                                                          (acampadas,
                                                          asambleas,
                                                          etc.) junto a
                                                          los
                                                          anticapitalistas
                                                          y antisistema
                                                          de siempre,
                                                          mañana ven que
                                                          sus
                                                          condiciones de
                                                          vida mejoran,
                                                          que sus sueños
                                                          dentro del
                                                          sistema
                                                          vuelven a ser
                                                          satsisfechos
                                                          por el
                                                          sistema,
                                                          olvidarán las
                                                          injusticias
                                                          del sistema y
                                                          todo lo demás,
                                                          y volverán al
                                                          rincón del
                                                          que, en
                                                          realidad,
                                                          nunca se
                                                          movieron,
                                                          porque sus
                                                          consciencias
                                                          nunca
                                                          cambiraron: el
                                                          de la defensa
                                                          del sistema,
                                                          el de la
                                                          alienación en
                                                          los valores
                                                          consumistas-capitalistas.
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p>Porque,
                                                          además, si la
                                                          mayoría social
                                                          sigue siendo
                                                          como Bernard
                                                          Marx, el
                                                          mantemiento
                                                          del sistema
                                                          está
                                                          asegurado, y
                                                          solo cuando la
                                                          mayoría, a
                                                          través de un
                                                          proceso de
                                                          reflexión y de
                                                          toma de
                                                          consciencia
                                                          real de las
                                                          injusticias
                                                          del sistema,
                                                          sea como
                                                          Helmholtz
                                                          Watson, el
                                                          sistema estará
                                                          en peligro. No
                                                          es el caso de
                                                          lo que estamos
                                                          viviendo
                                                          ahora, pero ni
                                                          de lejos.</p>
                                                          <p> <b>Condiciones
                                                          subjetivas de
                                                          la
                                                          "revolución"
                                                          de los
                                                          Indignados</b></p>
                                                          <p> Decía Marx
                                                          que las
                                                          correcciones
                                                          que se puedan
                                                          introducir en
                                                          el sistema
                                                          capitalista no
                                                          bastan para
                                                          solucionar las
                                                          crisis
                                                          perpetua que
                                                          éste provoca
                                                          en las clases
                                                          trabajadoras,
                                                          y que lo que
                                                          entra en
                                                          crisis es el
                                                          sistema mismo.
                                                          Esta
                                                          contradicción
                                                          interna del
                                                          sistema
                                                          capitalista
                                                          pone, según
                                                          Marx, las
                                                          condiciones 
                                                          objetivas 
                                                          para la
                                                          destrucción
                                                          del mismo. Por
                                                          otra parte,
                                                          esta situación
                                                          de crisis hace
                                                          que el
                                                          conjunto de
                                                          proletarios
                                                          tome
                                                          conciencia de
                                                          la situación
                                                          en que se
                                                          encuentra,
                                                          amergiendo con
                                                          ello unas
                                                          condiciones
                                                          subjetivas que
                                                          abren paso a
                                                          los procesos
                                                          revolucionarios.
                                                          Cuando
                                                          condiciones
                                                          objetivas y
                                                          condiciones
                                                          subjetivas
                                                          convergen en
                                                          una misma
                                                          sociedad, se
                                                          dan, pues, los
                                                          elementos
                                                          necesarios
                                                          para acabar
                                                          con el
                                                          sistema, que
                                                          reduce a la
                                                          mayoría de los
                                                          hombres a un
                                                          estado
                                                          miserable, y
                                                          los despoja de
                                                          lo que los
                                                          define como
                                                          hombres, el
                                                          producto de su
                                                          trabajo. Se
                                                          abre, en
                                                          definitiva, el
                                                          camino a la
                                                          revolución,
                                                          hacia un mundo
                                                          más justo,
                                                          hacia una
                                                          sociedad sin
                                                          clases, hacia
                                                          el fin de la
                                                          explotación
                                                          del hombre por
                                                          el hombre,
                                                          hacia la
                                                          justicia
                                                          social.</p>
                                                          <p>
                                                          Obviamente,
                                                          las
                                                          condiciones
                                                          objetivas en
                                                          la actual
                                                          situación del
                                                          estado
                                                          español, no
                                                          solo están
                                                          dadas, sino
                                                          que se van
                                                          acentuando
                                                          cada día que
                                                          pasa. 45% de
                                                          paro juvenil,
                                                          casi cinco
                                                          millones de
                                                          desempleados,
                                                          reforma
                                                          laboral,
                                                          reforma de las
                                                          pensiones,
                                                          planes de
                                                          ajuste,
                                                          aumento de la
                                                          pobreza,
                                                          desahucios, en
                                                          fin, todo un
                                                          conglomerado
                                                          de situaciones
                                                          y datos
                                                          socioeconómicos
                                                          que ponen en
                                                          jaque los
                                                          derechos e
                                                          intereses de
                                                          las clases
                                                          trabajadoras.
                                                          Una
                                                          condiciones,
                                                          no se niega,
                                                          que han hecho
                                                          posible esta
                                                          situación de
                                                          manifestaciones,
                                                          acampadas y
                                                          asambleas que
                                                          se están dando
                                                          en estos días
                                                          a lo largo y
                                                          ancho de todo
                                                          el estado
                                                          español, y aun
                                                          en otros
                                                          puntos del
                                                          Mundo, en
                                                          apoyo a las
                                                          mismas.</p>
                                                          <p> Sin
                                                          embargo,
                                                          parece que las
                                                          condiciones
                                                          subjetivas que
                                                          han
                                                          desencadenado
                                                          esta repentina
                                                          explosión de
                                                          indignación,
                                                          no son
                                                          precisamente
                                                          las de una
                                                          toma de
                                                          consciencia
                                                          para llevar a
                                                          cabo un
                                                          verdadero
                                                          proceso
                                                          revolucionario,
                                                          me temo que si
                                                          quiera proceso
                                                          alguno de
                                                          cambio
                                                          estructural,
                                                          todo lo más,
                                                          si acaso,
                                                          algunas
                                                          reformas
                                                          puntuales del
                                                          sistema
                                                          político y
                                                          económico
                                                          vigente. Como
                                                          digo, no
                                                          aprecio que
                                                          haya una
                                                          verdadera
                                                          consciencia
                                                          generalizada
                                                          sobre la
                                                          necesidad de
                                                          cambiar un
                                                          sistema que en
                                                          intrínsecamente

                                                          injusto.
                                                          Aunque se
                                                          griten y se
                                                          lance
                                                          proclamas
                                                          contra el
                                                          sistema, me
                                                          temo que las
                                                          condiciones
                                                          subjetivas de
                                                          estas
                                                          movilizaciones
                                                          están más
                                                          centradas en
                                                          el deseo de
                                                          poder
                                                          recuperar un
                                                          espacio
                                                          individual
                                                          dentro del
                                                          sistema, sin
                                                          cuestionar si
                                                          es justo o
                                                          injusto el
                                                          mismo, que en
                                                          una verdadera
                                                          consciencia
                                                          sobre la
                                                          necesidad de
                                                          un cambio de
                                                          paradigma
                                                          político,
                                                          social y
                                                          económico que
                                                          acabe con un
                                                          sistema
                                                          desigual por
                                                          definición
                                                          como es el
                                                          capitalismo,
                                                          da igual en su
                                                          vertiente
                                                          neoliberal o
                                                          en cualquier
                                                          otra versión,
                                                          más o menos
                                                          reformada. </p>
                                                          <p> Las
                                                          condiciones
                                                          subjetivas de
                                                          esta
                                                          "revolución"
                                                          de los
                                                          indignados, al
                                                          menos de
                                                          partida, no
                                                          son, por
                                                          tanto, a mi
                                                          parecer, las
                                                          condiciones
                                                          subjetivas que
                                                          permiten un
                                                          cambio
                                                          revolucionario:
                                                          la toma de
                                                          consciencia de
                                                          la clase
                                                          trabajadora
                                                          sobre su
                                                          situación de
                                                          explotación y
                                                          miseria dentro
                                                          del sistema
                                                          capitalista, y
                                                          el consecuente
                                                          deseo por
                                                          acabar con el
                                                          sistema que
                                                          produce dicha
                                                          condiciones de
                                                          explotación y
                                                          miseria, no
                                                          desde una
                                                          perspectiva
                                                          subjetiva (de
                                                          los intereses
                                                          de cada cual),
                                                          sino desde una
                                                          perspectiva de
                                                          clase, desde
                                                          un deseo por
                                                          acabar con la
                                                          explotación,
                                                          de generalizar
                                                          la justicia
                                                          social, y de
                                                          no permitir
                                                          que nunca más
                                                          allá personas
                                                          que queden
                                                          excluídas por
                                                          el sistema
                                                          reinante;
                                                          aunque no
                                                          seamos
                                                          nosotros/as.</p>
                                                          <p> Ojalá y
                                                          todo este
                                                          movimiento
                                                          pudiese
                                                          canalizar, en
                                                          un día, un
                                                          mes, un año,
                                                          una década, da
                                                          igual, en una
                                                          situación
                                                          verdaderamente
                                                          revolucionaria,
                                                          en un
                                                          verdadero
                                                          deseo de
                                                          acabar con el
                                                          sistema
                                                          capitalista,
                                                          en una
                                                          verdadera toma
                                                          de consciencia
                                                          de que no es
                                                          tolerable que
                                                          se cometa una
                                                          sola
                                                          injusticia,
                                                          que no es
                                                          permisible un
                                                          sistema que
                                                          extiende la
                                                          pobreza, la
                                                          miseria, el
                                                          hambre, la
                                                          explotación, y
                                                          el agotamiento
                                                          de los
                                                          recursos
                                                          naturales, por
                                                          el mundo
                                                          entero.</p>
                                                          <p> Ojalá,
                                                          quienes hoy
                                                          estén allí, en
                                                          las plazas,
                                                          gritando
                                                          contra el
                                                          sistema
                                                          bancario,
                                                          contra los
                                                          políticos
                                                          corruptos, y
                                                          contra una
                                                          democracia
                                                          representativa
                                                          que no otorga
                                                          capacidad de
                                                          empoderamiento
                                                          a los
                                                          ciudadanos/as,
                                                          todos, sin
                                                          excepción,
                                                          entiendan que
                                                          el único
                                                          camino posible
                                                          es la lucha
                                                          frontal contra
                                                          el sistema
                                                          capitalista
                                                          que genera
                                                          tales
                                                          situaciones,
                                                          aunque nunca
                                                          antes se lo
                                                          hubiesen
                                                          planteado
                                                          desde esa
                                                          perspectiva, y
                                                          aunque el
                                                          impulso
                                                          primero que
                                                          les ha llevado
                                                          a estar en
                                                          esas plazas no
                                                          sea más que la
                                                          frustración
                                                          generada por
                                                          la incapacidad
                                                          de poder
                                                          sastisfacer
                                                          dentro del
                                                          sistema los
                                                          sueños y
                                                          expectativas
                                                          de vida que
                                                          ellos mismos
                                                          se habían
                                                          marcado
                                                          siguiendo las
                                                          imposiciones
                                                          alienantes del
                                                          propio sistema
                                                          consumista-capitalista.
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p>Ojalá, en
                                                          definitiva,
                                                          todo esto
                                                          sirva, cuando
                                                          menos, para
                                                          que haya una
                                                          toma
                                                          generalizada
                                                          de consciencia
                                                          contra el
                                                          sistema
                                                          capitalista y
                                                          sus
                                                          injusticias,
                                                          para que la
                                                          gente entienda
                                                          de una vez que
                                                          el único
                                                          camino posible
                                                          para alcanzar
                                                          una sociedad
                                                          mejor es la
                                                          lucha y la
                                                          resistencia
                                                          organizada
                                                          contra el
                                                          sistema. De
                                                          momento,
                                                          simplemente no
                                                          veo eso, y que
                                                          me perdonen
                                                          quienes se
                                                          están
                                                          partiendo la
                                                          cara en la
                                                          organización
                                                          de todo esto,
                                                          antes los
                                                          cuales,
                                                          sinceramente,
                                                          estoy muy
                                                          agradecido.</p>
                                                          <p>Lo que veo
                                                          más bien es
                                                          una minoría de
                                                          gente que ya
                                                          previamente
                                                          estaba
                                                          conscienciada
                                                          de los injusto
                                                          y desigual que
                                                          es el sistema
                                                          capitalista, y
                                                          me temo que
                                                          una mayoría de
                                                          gente que
                                                          están allí
                                                          porque quieren
                                                          recuperar los
                                                          sueños del
                                                          sistema que el
                                                          propio sistema
                                                          les ha
                                                          robado.  No
                                                          veo, en
                                                          definitiva,
                                                          condiciones
                                                          para
                                                          revolución
                                                          alguna, ni,
                                                          por supuesto,
                                                          veo peligro
                                                          ninguno para
                                                          el sistema:
                                                          "No somos
                                                          antisistema,
                                                          el sistema es
                                                          antinosotros". 
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p> Pese a lo
                                                          cual, insisto
                                                          sinceramente y
                                                          de corazón, me
                                                          alegro, y
                                                          mucho, de todo
                                                          lo que está
                                                          sucediendo, y
                                                          estoy siendo
                                                          partícipe de
                                                          ello en la
                                                          medida de mis
                                                          posibilidades,
                                                          siempre que
                                                          mis
                                                          "responsabilidades"
                                                          en Kaos me lo
                                                          están
                                                          permitiendo, y
                                                          aún, por
                                                          supuesto,
                                                          dándole
                                                          cobertura y
                                                          seguimiento
                                                          continuado
                                                          desde
                                                          Kaosenlared,
                                                          que también es
                                                          un frente de
                                                          organización,
                                                          difusión y
                                                          lucha, de
                                                          este, como de
                                                          otros muchos
                                                          movimientos. 
                                                          Porque, dicho
                                                          sea de paso,
                                                          lo cortés, no
                                                          quita lo
                                                          valiente, y no
                                                          sólo de
                                                          revoluciones
                                                          vive el
                                                          revolucionario.
                                                          La indignación
                                                          generalizada
                                                          contra las
                                                          injusticias
                                                          del sistema,
                                                          aunque sean
                                                          desde el
                                                          egoismo, y no
                                                          desde la
                                                          consciencia
                                                          social real,
                                                          siempre son y
                                                          serán
                                                          bienvenidas.
                                                          Pero, al menos
                                                          yo, a mí mismo
                                                          (mi, yo,
                                                          conmigo), no
                                                          me quiero
                                                          llevar a
                                                          engaño...</p>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">El
                                                          9 de abril de
                                                          2011 13:31,
                                                          Durán Vázquez
                                                          Durán Vázquez
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nomenekpos@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">nomenekpos@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          escribió:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          reflexión que
                                                          tenga que ver
                                                          con la
                                                          neolengua me
                                                          parece
                                                          interesantísima.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ¿Se acuerdan
                                                          de aquel avión
                                                          de Gadafi que
                                                          hace unas
                                                          semanas caía
                                                          del cielo en
                                                          la portada de
                                                          los
                                                          periódicos?<br>
                                                          En los
                                                          informativos
                                                          decían que
                                                          según el
                                                          gobierno libio
                                                          (perdón... el
                                                          régimen libio)
                                                          el avión era
                                                          comandado por
                                                          los rebeldes.
                                                          Alguna
                                                          periodista
                                                          incluso
                                                          arqueaba la
                                                          ceja simulando
                                                          incredulidad.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Pues bien:<br>
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                                                    Interesante
                                                    comentario, Carlos.<br>
                                                    Suele suceder que,
                                                    gracias a eso que
                                                    llaman
                                                    "transversalidad",
                                                    muchas veces los
                                                    "pensadores"
                                                    terminan diciendo
                                                    las grandes cosas
                                                    que dicen:
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                                                      "<i><font size="2">pequeñas

                                                          sociedades
                                                          tribales </font></i><i><font
                                                          size="2">donde
                                                          el global de
                                                          la población
                                                          se mueve al
                                                          son que marca
                                                          una misma y
                                                          uniforme
                                                          estructura
                                                          cultural,
                                                          aunque,
                                                          obviamente,
                                                          las
                                                          diferencias en
                                                          cuanto a fines
                                                          de estas
                                                          últimas
                                                          estructuras
                                                          con las
                                                          anteriores
                                                          sean más que
                                                          evidentes a
                                                          poco que se
                                                          tenga un
                                                          mínimo
                                                          conocimiento
                                                          en
                                                          Antropología
                                                          social y
                                                          cultural.”<br>
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                                                    Hum...curioso...pare
                                                    dce que el no tiene
                                                    un "mínimo
                                                    conocimiento..."<i><font
                                                        size="2">pequeñas

                                                        sociedades
                                                        tribales </font></i><i><font
                                                        size="2">donde
                                                        el global de la
                                                        población se
                                                        mueve al son que
                                                        marca una misma
                                                        y uniforme
                                                        estructura
                                                        cultural"...<br>
                                                      </font></i>Como
                                                    siempre el
                                                    ornitólogo antes que
                                                    el pájaro...el carro
                                                    delante de los
                                                    bueyes..."<i><font
                                                        size="2">las
                                                        diferencias en
                                                        cuanto a fines
                                                        de estas últimas
                                                        estructuras con
                                                        las
                                                        anteriores"...</font></i>Joder
                                                    con las
                                                    ESTRUCTURAS...<br>
                                                    <i><font size="2"><br>
                                                      </font></i>UNIFORME
                                                    ESTURUCTURA
                                                    CULTURAL...que se de
                                                    una vuelta por esos
                                                    mundos y les
                                                    pregunte a los
                                                    interesados, a las "<i><font
                                                        size="2">pequeñas

                                                        sociedades
                                                        tribales" </font></i>que
                                                    es eso de una
                                                    UNIFORME ESTRUCTURA
                                                    CULTURAL...<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Ultimamente no puedo
                                                    escuchar la palabra
                                                    ESTRUCTURA sin que
                                                    me de el
                                                    pempe...Puñetera
                                                    manía de meterlo
                                                    todo en una puta
                                                    férula...<br>
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    El señor ese de los pantalones vaqueros...era, ante todo, pesimista
    y nostálgico...a mi no me cae del todo mal..aunque solo sea por la
    ultima frase de "Tristes tropiques"...eso si...me da que con los
    nambiquara se agarro unos calentones de la leche...debia de andar
    todo el dia morcillon...<br>
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